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From: datta@vacs.uwp.wisc.edu (David Datta)
Date: 21 Feb 90 06:58:06 GMT
Subject: EM Survey 4 (Part 16 of 19)
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Reply-To: datta@vacs.uwp.wisc.edu (David Datta)
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Eclectic Music Survey #4 Results
Survey Posting February 1990
Part 16 of 19 (Thru Siouxsie and the Banshees)
R.E.M.
Just goes to show (ie South Central Rain) that you don't have to be able
to understand much of a song to like it. At least they realized that and
gave us a clue in videos for Cant Get There from Here (philomath?) and
Fall on Me (magnets) the latter my # 1 song of 86.
- Paul Mount prm@whutt.att.com
"Reckoning" and "Fables of the Reconstruction" are just brilliant
albums. Work since then is pretty good, but it's been sabotaged by
producers or engineers whose hearing has probably been shot by too much
live rock and roll. If they get back to a good producer like Mitch
Easter or Joe Boyd, they could do great albums again; the songs on
"Green" were pretty good. (Scott Litt seems to have trashed the "Indigo
Girls" CD too; it's harsh, almost unlistenable, just like R.E.M.'s
"Document".)
- Ken Josenhans 13020KRJ@MSU.BitNet
Another favourite of mine. Not ground-breaking in any way, but very
listeneable. Beatles meets Neil Young. And they support Greenpeace, too.
One day I'll buy "Reckoning" and "Murmur" and then I'll have all of
their albums.
- Hans Huttel hans%lfcs.edinburgh.ac.uk@NSFNET-RELAY.AC.UK
College radio faves who graduated to arenas and haven't suffered for it
unduly. Indecipherable lyrics on early releases gave way to merely
opaque lyrics later on.
- sco!martyst@ucscc.UCSC.EDU
Doubtlessly, my favorite band. It kind of upsets me that so many people
dump on them because they're popular, _Green_ wasn't that good, etc...
Either way, I'll still love 'em. _Lifes Rich Pageant_, _Murmur_ and
_Chronic Town_ are my favorite albums by them, but all the others are
excellent, too.
- Valerie valerie@athena.mit.edu
Great songwriter, can't say enough good things about her. One of the
most intelligent, down-to-earth songwriters I know of. She's usually
classified as country, but I think with "Storms" she's moving out of
that style of music.
- rmiller@sbcs.sunysb.edu
Like just about everything they have done, except "Stand", which I think
is far too repetetive and generic.
- Bill White bwhite@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu
Now getting tons of attention, R.E.M. are largely misunderstood by their
new audience. They deserve a lot of credit for being the first band in
quite some time to become very popular while not compromising their
integrity (well, for the most part). For instance, they maintain
complete artistic control over their videos and album artwork. If top-40
returns to guitar (especially acoustic guitar) and/or folk-based rock in
the near future, you'll have this band to thank for it.
- Anton C Shepps (Tony)
rochester!moscom!telesci!ashepps%ll-xn.UUCP@cs.wisc.edu
The American Smiths. Music is a bit better though..lyrics not so
depressing.
- Stephen K Mulrine
smulrine%computer-science.strathclyde.ac.uk@NSFNET-RELAY.AC.UK
The Replacements
Definitely has a "college band atmosphere" even after becoming famous.
I like their style, but to someone who doesn't, I can see why they might
hate them; it's very strong in their music.
- Bill White bwhite@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu
Trash rock holdovers from another time, they just wail the bejezus out
of their instruments. Also capable of the odd ballad here & there.
- sco!martyst@ucscc.UCSC.EDU
The Residents
This band is the weirdest of any I've ever seen. They make Laurie
Anderson look mainstream and Weird Al Yankovich look like Michael
Jackson. Try listening to "Bach is Dead," "Lizard Lady," etc.
- Bill White bwhite@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu
Rev. Jim Jones
the actual tapes from the jonestown mass suicide.
- del Amitri del@ab.ecn.purdue.edu
Jonathan Richman & The Modern Lovers
comedic songwriter.
- del Amitri del@ab.ecn.purdue.edu
Boyd Rice
Has done much great INDUSTRIAL(and that doesn't mean Skinny Puppy) noise
under both his own name as well as Non.A friend of mine played Steve
Reich a Non record because he saw parallelisms and Reich was intrigued.A
Non cd exists.Bad rumors exist regarding his political lean, however.
- Jon Kincaid dsrekjk@prism.gatech.edu
Richie Rich
Don't tell me his dad bought him a rock band.
- John Gateley gateley@m2.csc.ti.com
Terry Riley
Never knew one could create such interesting music with just an organ
and some tape recorders until I heard _Rainbow In Curved Air_.
Fantastic.
- Richard Caley rjc%cstr.edinburgh.ac.uk@NSFNET-RELAY.AC.UK
The harp of New Albian is wierd but good. Is Rainbow in Curved Air still
out there anywhere?
- Richard Caley rjc%cstr.edinburgh.ac.uk@NSFNET-RELAY.AC.UK
Risse
Appeared on a Steve "Silk" Hurley remix.
- Hussein Yahia hussein@bora.inria.fr
Steve Roach
Does quite interesting synth music. He's got a whole bunch of solo
albums out, as well as a couple with Kevin Braheny and some other guy
whose name I've forgotten.
- Richard Caley rjc%cstr.edinburgh.ac.uk@NSFNET-RELAY.AC.UK
Roxy Music
glam rock ala david bowie, but with a heart-breaking crooner: brian
ferry.
- del Amitri del@ab.ecn.purdue.edu
Run DMC
How a group of people with so little musical talent can be so popular is
way beyond me.
- Frank J. Schima francis@pawl.rpi.edu
I liked their duet with Aerosmith.
- John Gateley gateley@m2.csc.ti.com
If you've gotta listen to rap, at least listen to guys like RunDMC who
make rap with amusing lyrics.
- Richard Caley rjc%cstr.edinburgh.ac.uk@NSFNET-RELAY.AC.UK
Todd Rundgren
A wizard, a true star. A prime example that not all good progressive
rock comes from the European continent. Personally, I like the albums he
did with Utopia a little more than his solo work, but they're both quite
good. And am I imagining things or did you omit his first band, Nazz,
from the list entirely?
- Richard Caley rjc%cstr.edinburgh.ac.uk@NSFNET-RELAY.AC.UK
Aging wunderkind with a rabid following. Chooses a wide variety of
settings for almost every album: white soul, autobiography,
electronicized a capella, what have you. An original.
- sco!martyst@ucscc.UCSC.EDU
Boring in concert, but I like bang on the drums.
- John Gateley gateley@m2.csc.ti.com
Rush
"2112", "A Farewell To Kings" & "Hemispheres" are all supreme examples
of progressive HM. "Moving Pictures" is THE techno-rock album of the
80s. Their recent albums will probably appeal more to Police/Simple
Minds fans than metal-kids although "Power Windows" is impressive.
- Iain Smith & Jonathan Habrovitsky
jhabrovi%computer-science.strathclyde.ac.uk@NSFNET-RELAY.AC.UK
Heavy metal on the first album & progressed more into what I consider
the progressive style.
- TRM900@PSUVM.PSU.edu
My personal all-time favorite group. What you get when you put the best
drummer in the world, with the best bass/synth combo man, and a very
talented guitarist together. I hope they never quit!
- Chris Chavez ccmchris@pollux.ucdavis.edu
Pretty good prog-rock up until _Moving Pictures_. After that, they
started to go downhill and become boring. _Signals_ was fairly good,
_Grace Under Pressure_ had a few high spots, but after that I started
gagging every time their new songs came on the radio.
- Richard Caley rjc%cstr.edinburgh.ac.uk@NSFNET-RELAY.AC.UK
Save yourself some money. Instead of buying the new Rush album just play
one of the old ones again. You won't notice the difference.
- Russ Levreault RLEVREAULT@EAGLE.WESLEYAN.EDU
They are one my favorite groups. I even like their recent albums a lot.
It's too bad they lost that raw energy ala 'Working Man' though. I like
their polished music of late for different reasons.
- Frank J. Schima francis@pawl.rpi.edu
Tried and true! Success hasn't spoiled this bunch!
- David Caldwell macs!dfc@bikini.cis.ufl.edu
Very good rock group regardless of responses to previous survey. Their
best work was from 1976 - 1982. Most of their songs had some story
connected with it, rather than having ethereal lyrics or endlessly
repeating, meaningless gibberish with extensive sexual connotation. They
started to lose it on "Hold Your Fire", and were pretty bad on their
latest, "Presto"
- Christopher Waldemar Bochna cb2w+@andrew.cmu.edu
S-Express
"Mantra for a State of Mind" was a big disappointment as far as I was
concerned. The album "Original Soundtrack" was OK but they seemed unsure
as to exactly what sort of house music they performed.
- Stephen K Mulrine
smulrine%computer-science.strathclyde.ac.uk@NSFNET-RELAY.AC.UK
Bad house music.
- Hussein Yahia hussein@bora.inria.fr
I though I'd like the album on the basis of hearing a single or three
but no-go. The "Music Lover" CD-5 is worth getting though, lots of mix
and class.
- Lazlo Nibble lazlo@ariel.unm.edu
Sade
If only I had girlfriend who looked like Sade...
- Hans Huttel hans%lfcs.edinburgh.ac.uk@NSFNET-RELAY.AC.UK
The smoothest arrival of the '80s. Good old-fashioned torch songs with
supple backing.
- sco!martyst@ucscc.UCSC.EDU
Ryuichi Sakamoto
I like his album 'Illustrated Musical Encyclopedia'. My favourite track
from this has to be 'Field Work' but the rest of it is good too.
Different.
- Alan Crawford awrc%lfcs.edinburgh.ac.uk@NSFNET-RELAY.AC.UK
Merry Christmas Mr. Datta
- Geir Stenstud geirs@ifi.uio.no
Carlos Santana
Santana be way bad. Soaring sustains on guitar while the bad cooks away
in the back. Also, many killer blues leads.
- sco!martyst@ucscc.UCSC.EDU
Jean Paul Sartre
French existentialist author. The only work I can remember off-hand is
a short story titled (I believe) "The Wall." I don't know what he's
doing on this list.
- James Martin <martin@cpsc.UCalgary.CA>
Interesting ideas, but basically full of s***.
- John Gateley gateley@m2.csc.ti.com
Singing?
- sco!martyst@ucscc.UCSC.EDU
Joe Satriani
Great insrumentalist, but FLYING IN A BLUE DREAM is almost like a Weird
Al album in spots; he kypes licks and vocal styles from everyone from
Prince to ZZ. It's all fun though!
- Lazlo Nibble lazlo@ariel.unm.edu
The newest guitarist from hell.
- John Gateley gateley@m2.csc.ti.com
Kevin Saunderson
Forms Inner City (house group) along with Paris Grey. Also known as
Reese. An excellent house artist whose music is sampled by many others.
_Almost_ as good as Baby Ford.
- Stephen K Mulrine
smulrine%computer-science.strathclyde.ac.uk@NSFNET-RELAY.AC.UK
Initiator, with paris Gray and others, of the Detroit techno house
sound. He made terrific house mixes too. See Inner City.
- Hussein Yahia hussein@bora.inria.fr
Peter Schilling
I like "Major Tom (Coming Home)" but can't think of anyother thing he's
done that I can even name . . .
- Lazlo Nibble lazlo@ariel.unm.edu
Well I like him anyway. Major Tom and Different Story were in my top 10s
for their years, if one reminded me of the other well that probably
helped
- Paul Mount prm@whutt.att.com
Johannes Schmoelling
Ex Tangerine Dream member. "The Zoo of Tranquility" is the most varied
Newage album I've heard.
- Iain Smith & Jonathan Habrovitsky
jhabrovi%computer-science.strathclyde.ac.uk@NSFNET-RELAY.AC.UK
I'd say he's produced the best solo output of any ex TD member. I can't
really decide whether I prefer 'Wuivend Riet' or 'Zoo Of Tranquility'
though. Is there a release date for his new album yet.
- Alan Crawford awrc%lfcs.edinburgh.ac.uk@NSFNET-RELAY.AC.UK
Yet another ex-TD musician come out of the woodwork. _Wuivend Riet_, his
first solo album, is one of the best albums in the TD style I've ever
heard. In fact, if I had to pick my two favorite solo works by ex-TD
members, I'd pick _Wuivend Riet_ and Hoenig's _Departure..._, with
Froese's _Stuntman_ a close third.
- Richard Caley rjc%cstr.edinburgh.ac.uk@NSFNET-RELAY.AC.UK
Tom Scott
Much sought-after L.A. sax session wizard. Was on just about everything
made in the '70s.
- sco!martyst@ucscc.UCSC.EDU
Jonathan Segel
ex camper van beethoven violin player does his own thang. quite good.
- del Amitri del@ab.ecn.purdue.edu
Bob Seger
Midwestern rocker with riffs as beefy as his midsection.
- sco!martyst@ucscc.UCSC.EDU
The man Bruce Springsteen out-Bob-Seger's. Amazing staying power.
- Paul Maclauchlan moore!paul@uunet.UU.NET
Yucch Yucch Yucch: the symbol of modern commercial rock n roll.
- John Gateley gateley@m2.csc.ti.com
John Serrie
His first album _And the Stars Go With You_ is just FANTASTIC. I highly
recommend it if you enjoy true space music. It's a lot of flowing
chords, and a lite beat once in awhile. Truely amazing. I haven't heard
his latest _Flightpath_ yet. Recommendations: _And The Stars Go With
You_
- Steven Seidman sseidman@polyslo.CalPoly.EDU (The MIDIman)
Severed Heads
Australian weirdoes - they used to be into tape loops and noise but
they've gotten danceable lately. Good toonz.
- Jon Drukman jsd@GAFFA.MIT.EDU
at all accesible. make sense?
- del Amitri del@ab.ecn.purdue.edu
Sex Pistols
*The* punk band. Too anarchic to last very long, they lived down to
everyone's expectations. "Never Mind the Bollocks" is quite tuneful in
retrospect.
- sco!martyst@ucscc.UCSC.EDU
I was thirteen, had never heard the band , and had no chance of getting
there or getting in, but I wanted bad to go see their American debut
1/5/78 at the Graet Southeast Music Hall here in Atlanta (in a K-Mart
shopping center ). Twelve years later,a bootleg lp from that show (the
first good tape(a board) of that show) called "My Name Is John" is
available, and anyone who cares should own one.
- Jon Kincaid dsrekjk@prism.gatech.edu
It's hard to compare the band that was the "basis" for the Punk Movement
to anything else; I like them a lot, though I think some of their songs
were written for pure shock value (not necessarily a bad thing, but
tends to lead to underdeveloped music).
- Bill White bwhite@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu
Shockabilly Between them and Eugene Chadbourne's solo work, Country and
Western music will *definitely* not be the same ever again. Not to
mention their definitive version of Simon&Garfunkel's "Homeward Bound".
- Richard Caley rjc%cstr.edinburgh.ac.uk@NSFNET-RELAY.AC.UK
Shadowfax
I think most people outgrow them quickly.
- Russ Levreault RLEVREAULT@EAGLE.WESLEYAN.EDU
Shaggs
a re-issue of the original late 196Ts records. absolutely the worst band
of all time. girls, lets go into the studio and make a record. so awful
it is brilliant. true punks. almost a decade ahead of their time.
- del Amitri del@ab.ecn.purdue.edu
Ravi Shankar
"What is that caterwauling?", my mom.
- Paul Maclauchlan moore!paul@uunet.UU.NET
I got his autograph after his concert at the Edinburgh festival last
year. The music is good, too.
- Hans Huttel hans%lfcs.edinburgh.ac.uk@NSFNET-RELAY.AC.UK
I saw Ravi in concert once, it was very interesting. I think 'highly
spiritual' is the best way to describe his music. I was very impressed
by the concert. I also think his musical influence on George Harrison
was very positive.
- Frank J. Schima francis@pawl.rpi.edu
Popularizer of classical Indian music in the U.S. Friend of George
Harrison. Still going as far as I know.
- sco!martyst@ucscc.UCSC.EDU
Shelleyan Orphan
I heard "Southern Bess" a few years ago and really liked it. I bought
_Helleborine_, but didn't like it. Oh well...
- Valerie valerie@athena.mit.edu
Shop Assistants
scotish pop. loose. female vocalists.
- del Amitri del@ab.ecn.purdue.edu
Mark Shreeve
Why does he stay with Jive? They won't release any of his work on CD,
and (in Britain at least) every album he's ever released (including
<sob> 'Legion') with the exception of 'Crash Head' has been deleted. I
can't help but think he'd be better off on a specialist synth/electronic
label.
- Alan Crawford awrc%lfcs.edinburgh.ac.uk@NSFNET-RELAY.AC.UK
Sigue Sigue Sputnik
Sigue Sigue Sputnik, best abbreviated as $^3 -- Well, they aren't ruling the
world or owning EMI like they promised on their first album Flaunt It, but at
least they've survived long enough to produce an album which actually has
more drum lines than Love Missile repeated for almost every track of Flaunt
It. They're doing OK, although their attitude might end up looking too 80's.
On the other hand, like many groups (including PWEI), they claim they're the
90's.
- Kevin Martin sigma@pawl.rpi.edu
Dear Doctor, Sigue Sigue Sputnik are talentless, manufactured and don't
have a musical bone in their bodies. So why do I like, nay, love 'Love
Missile F1-11'?
- Alan Crawford awrc%lfcs.edinburgh.ac.uk@NSFNET-RELAY.AC.UK
I thought "Success" (single) was pretty neat. I liked the way it was
marketed as a sell-out (punks produced by Stock Aitken and Waterman).
And it had more than 3 chords as well...
- Stephen K Mulrine
smulrine%computer-science.strathclyde.ac.uk@NSFNET-RELAY.AC.UK
Obnoxious, overhyped, stupid stuff. Still listen to it constantly,
though.
- Lazlo Nibble lazlo@ariel.unm.edu
Silly Sisters
Originally the title of the album recorded by Maddy Prior and June Tabor
in 1976; a folk-rock landmark which has remained in print through three
successive record companies. Adopted as a group name by Prior and Tabor
for their 1988 followup "No More to the Dance", which is maybe 80% as
good as the original and is certainly the best thing Prior has recorded
since the 1978 dissolution of Steeleye Span.
- Ken Josenhans 13020KRJ@MSU.BitNet
Paul Simon
Dean of American balladeers. Many long-lasting hits with partner Art
Garfunkel, almost as many as a solo. Teaches songwriting.
- sco!martyst@ucscc.UCSC.EDU
For those people who listen to music without listening to it.
- Stephen K Mulrine
smulrine%computer-science.strathclyde.ac.uk@NSFNET-RELAY.AC.UK
Gets a special place in rock and roll history for his use of South
African musicians and melodies in "Graceland". Peter Gabriel was first,
but Simon broke through to the masses, especially in the US, and so I
give him more credit for the current flourishing world music scene.
Maybe it was just steam-engine time...
- Ken Josenhans 13020KRJ@MSU.BitNet
Great, and improving!
- John Gateley gateley@m2.csc.ti.com
One of my favourite song writers, but he lifts some of the tunes from
places that are a bit too obvious.
- Paul Maclauchlan moore!paul@uunet.UU.NET
Very inconsistent since 'Simon and Garfunkel' days, but he still managed
to write some great songs since then (e.g. 'Kodachrome') and his last
album was pretty good.
- Frank J. Schima francis@pawl.rpi.edu
Simple Minds
"New Gold Dream" is one of the best albums ever recorded. Why can't they
make stuff like that nowadays ?
- Hans Huttel hans%lfcs.edinburgh.ac.uk@NSFNET-RELAY.AC.UK
I thought "This Is Your Land" sounded like Tangerine Dream in places.
Hard to describe...they have changed their style a bit over the years.
Rivals of U2, better IMHO.
- Stephen K Mulrine
smulrine%computer-science.strathclyde.ac.uk@NSFNET-RELAY.AC.UK
The most aptly named band at the moment. Their popularity is totally
unfathomable.
- sco!martyst@ucscc.UCSC.EDU
Siouxsie and the Banshees
Have a hit every now and then..the old days were the best.."Israel",
"Arabian Knights", "Spellbound" - 1980-81 was their best patch.
"Haunting" music.
- Stephen K Mulrine
smulrine%computer-science.strathclyde.ac.uk@NSFNET-RELAY.AC.UK
I've been listening to this band for a long time. _Peepshow_ and
_Tinderbox_ are the only albums I like as a whole, but they have a lot
of really great songs scattered over their n albums.
- Valerie valerie@athena.mit.edu
Siouxsie Sue needs to get a real name (and tone down the makeup), but I
like their music for its uniqueness and the fact that they sometimes
don't try to say anything meaningful, but don't resort to the
over-worked popular song subjects.
- Bill White bwhite@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu
Uncompromising if obscure outfit likely to rock your socks off or
piquing your curiosity with the slow ones.
- sco!martyst@ucscc.UCSC.EDU
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