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From: microsoft!brianw@uunet.uu.net
Date: Fri Aug 25 21:23:16 1989
Path: microsoft!brianw From: brianw@microsoft.UUCP (Brian Willoughby) Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa Subject: Re: RUTH interpretations Summary: I shouldn't have to tell *you* (?) Date: 26 Aug 89 04:23:13 GMT References: <3214@scolex.sco.COM> Reply-To: brianw@microsoft.UUCP (Brian Willoughby) Organization: Microsoft Corp., Redmond WA Lines: 65 In article <3214@scolex.sco.COM> Love-Hounds@GAFFA.MIT.EDU writes: >Really-From: tracyr@uunet.uu.net (jane smallberries) > >RUTH was playing in my office when a coworker walked in (the only >song he recognized, ofcourse), and he asked what the song was about. >he wondered why she wanted to swap places with god, and indeed that's >what i thought the interpretation was until i actually read the tiny >print on the cassette insert. it seems she wants god to swap places >with her _and someone else_. probably an ex-lover, who she's trying to >convince that she's unharmed ( "do you want to know that it doesn't >hurt me"). but why she would want to swap places with him (?) is >a puzzle--and that she'd somehow be _stronger_ if she did ("be >running up that hill with no problems"). and the symbolism of >going uphill--usually this is used to express progress. and >_running_ up a hill implies even more drive and determination yet. >but why would she need to swap places with the object to be able to >_run_ up a hill? is the object somehow stronger, more immune to weakness? >sorry if this song's too trivial to analyze (in the face of the 9th >wave). %^) > >modern woman with a pleasant attitude, >-tracy Your signature indicates that you're a woman, so I'm surprised that you didn't make the same conclusions I did (especially since I have to look at things from the opposite viewpoint as you and KaTe). But, then again, there are so many interpretations to any work of art. I see "Running Up That Hill" as a symbol of the struggle between the roles of the opposite sexes, particularly from KaTe's view of trying to succeed as a woman in what has often been called "a man's world". I think she is expressing how common it is for men and women to misunderstand each other. Exchanging places would be the solution; to actually "know" what it is really like to be (fe)male. More than that, though, I also see it as being somewhat negative from KaTe/the female's point of view. That's why there are the references to being stronger if the roles were switched. RUTH is indeed about success, and how its easier (in general) for the masculine gender. Its true that KaTe didn't have to switch roles to acheive her success (she certainly has the "drive and determination"), but I see this song as her portrayal of the average woman's thoughts: not indicating that the weakness is actually there, but that the social expectations and barriers are the limiting factor. Most writers only loosely base their works on their own experiences. I got exactly the opposite impression as you from the line "do you want to know that it doesn't hurt me?". I saw that line as sarcastic, as if her partner would have been surprised to *really* now what kind of sensations he was inducing/inflicting. Of course you can take that either way, depending upon whether KaTe has had good or bad experiences with men and sex. Perhaps you were just testing to see if any of the men on this net could analyse this song from such an unfamiliar point of view :-) P.S. ^ That's definitely a joke on my part, please no flames... P.P.S. Re: KaTe's sexual experience(s) - please no more claims from the net of having slept with her! Brian Willoughby UUCP: ...!{tikal, sun, uunet, elwood}!microsoft!brianw InterNet: microsoft!brianw@uunet.UU.NET or: microsoft!brianw@Sun.COM Bitnet brianw@microsoft.UUCP