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From: Henry Chai <chai%utflis%math.waterloo.edu@RELAY.CS.NET>
Date: 19 Jun 87 22:28:35 GMT
Subject: New Music inKTerview (part II)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa
Organization: Faculty of Library and Info. Sci., U of Toronto
Reply-To: Henry Chai <chai%utflis.uucp@RELAY.CS.NET>
Here's the rest of the transciption of the New Music interview.
According to Mike Chmilar, the Much Music interview is exactly the same,
except the videos are "fleshed out". Also, thanks to IED who pointed
out that the "dauchy" in the first part of the transciption is probably
"dodgy".
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"You can find dance everywhere in Kate's earlier work. Like David
Bowie, she studied with choreographer Lindsey Kemp, and has incor-
porated both choreographed dance and spontaneous movement in her
live and video work." { clips from _Suspended_in_Gaffa_,
_There_Goes_a_Tenner_, and several videos from TWS }
NM: Obviously you are someone who feels that the world of dance and
the world of rock can coexist. But does dance absorb rock better
than rock absorbs dance?
KB: I think there is a very sort of basic logic to that, in that if
you dance, it's very very unusual to dance without music. Dance
is always something that is done to music, this is what dance is
about, you know, the rhythm; even if it's just someone tapping out
rhythms on a drum. That is, music is sound, and dance works hand
in hand with sound. And I think music can stand on it's own, but
in some cases what it makes you want to do is dance.
NM: I think _Running-up_that_Hill_ is one of the better examples of
how dance can be used well in rock music.
KB: Well it's very nice that you think that, because very much what we
were trying to achieve was to make it a serious piece of dance,
which I didn't feel like doing until [or "like I've done enough
'till"?] that point. I played around with dance, but in a very
sort of theatrical way. And in some ways it was a sort of like
saying goodbye to that dancing side of me, by doing it in a very
pure way. It is a very pure dance video without any theatre or
anything attached, because I feel very much a shift now, from
dance into film imagery, so they are two very different things.
Not that dance couldn't still be incorporated, but it's not the
same attitude. {_Running_up_that_Hill_}
"The years between 17 and 27 are normally considered to be the most
developmental in an artist's life. When Mozart was 17, he was
playing to the crowned heads of Europe. When Kate Bush was 17 she
had her first hit single with _Wuthering_Heights_. I asked her
how spending those 10 years as a successful pop singer influenced
her art.
KB: I'm not convinced they are *the* most influential years, I must
say. I think when you're a kid, they're incredibly influential, I
mean so many writers, and I don't know about singers, but from a
creative point of view you're always drawing back to things way
back in your childhood. But a lot of things have changed for me
in that period you were talking about, and I think it's been
*incredibly* useful for me to be successful during this time, in that
I've been able to work with people and find sources of information
that perhaps I wouldn't have, otherwise. Unfortunately, so much
of what we do in this business is based on money. Equipment is so
very expensive. So if you are successful, you stand a chance of
having more of this equipment available and that does definitely
affect the way you work. { _Strange_Phenomena_ }
NM: When listening to your album, from the very first to the most re-
cent, There's a change in your voice and it seems that your voice
is lower and a little more aggressive, as if you're working harder
in punching out the lyrics.
KB: Lyrics have always been very important for me, and all people go
through phases of things they try out, and at that period when I
made that first album, I was very much experimenting with a higher
vocal range. It was just something I wanted to try out, and also
the production has a tremendous amount to do with things like
that. But my voice has changed a lot, and I think that is basi-
cally what I see as the difference, that as I grow up, my voice
has grown up with me and has become stronger and stronger, and I
can do things now with my voice that were not easy for me to do
years ago.
NM: Has your voice lost any of its range?
KB: I can get up there if I need to, but I just prefer working in this
range now. I think a lot of females go through that. If you
listen to Joni Mitchell, her early stuff is very high, and with
each album she gets lower and lower. It's just a progressive
thing for people. { _Cloudbusting_ }
NM: I've been noticing a theme of science in the last few sings you
had out. Cloudbusting was an experiment that went very well, but
_X_4_ was one that want wrong. But in both cases the scientists
were sympathetic characters, but they were frustrated and manipu-
lated. Is that what you think about scientists?
KB: I don't think it's always what I think about scientists, but I
think they are fascinating in that so often they're trying to
create something that they consider positive, productive and very
much something that would help mankind, but so often along the way
those good intentions end up being used, particularly by other
people, for completely the opposite reasons. Particularly experi-
ments that end up being used by the military, things like the atom
bomb. I can see that perhaps when the guy was originally playing
with that idea, he had no idea where he'd end up, and that I'm
sure that he wouldn't have the evil intentions in his head ini-
tially, he was so caught up, so obsessed with the pure level of
the science that he didn't actually realize how it could be used.
NM: What do you think about scientific experimentation -- are there
limits to the things that people should be working on?
KB: I think that's very much part of the fascination, is that people
have to do that, that's what human beings are about -- discovering
things, and perhaps the problem is that they're normally always
connected by forces that do not have that same kind of creative
curiosity. The consequences, that's the problem; the consequences
are quite often hind sight, rather than on the way.
{ _Experiment_IV_ }
I consider music a really positive force, it's something that is
there to help people, to make them happy, to make them think, so
many wonderful things, music therapy... It's a very positive energy
and there's something incredibly beautiful about music and the
thought of people using sound in such a nega- tive way which, there
are definitely sonic experiments that go on, that are used by the
military, it's so obscene, the irony of using something that's so
beautiful in a way to actually kill people rather than help them --
I find fascinating.
NM: A lot of your songs and videos are filled with frightening or
disquieting images. Are you an uneasy person?
KB: I think anyone that has any kind of creative outlet is uneasy, and
that's what makes them need to express themselves. I think all
human beings are uneasy on some level. How can you not be when we
don't really know what we're doing here and what we're meant to do
with it, it's the continual questioning going on. { _Breathing_ }
--
Henry Chai "I always look for serendipity."
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