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From: nessus (Doug Alan)
Date: Sun, 22 Dec 85 22:23:38 est
Subject: Roy Harper, Pete Townsend, and David Gilmour
Here's the whole story behind the "Hope"/"White City Fighting" similarities. This is taken from an article by Andy Mabbett in "The Amazing Pudding", a Pink Floyd fanzine: Mr G. returns to play lead on the title track, a song which he co-wrote called "White City Fighting". This song has quite a history. For those of you who haven't been paying attention, Dave wrote this music for "About Face", but had no lyrics for it. He sent it to Pete, who wrote these lyrics for it. Dave didn't think the lyrics applied to him (they tell the tale of a star's rise from "rags to riches"). Roy Harper heard the tune and wrote different lyrics, which Dave also rejected as inappropriate. (This time it's a message to future generations). Roy used the tune with his lyrics, as "Hope" on his "Whatever Happened to Jugula?" album. Dave is uncredited on this & Roy's son plays a guitar that sounds more like Gilmour's than Gilmour's does. Pete then decided to use his version for this project and asked Dave to play on it -- hence his involvement here. Roy's "Hope" is slower, with more echo on the guitar and a laid back Harper vocal which reaches deep inside the listener. Pete's interpretation, faster and with a clearer guitar sound, has its lyrics sung in a much more aggressive fashion. It's ironic that one is looking forwards and the other looking back. I can't choose between the two -- each has its own attraction and it's great to hear them back to back. This recording featuring Dave & possible Pino, is presumably closer to the original, but I'd love to hear it and see. I haven't heard "White City Fighting", but since Roy's "Hope" is close to perfection, I truly doubt that "White city Fighting" can be as good. "That we both may share The hope in hearing That we're not just Spirits disappearing" Doug