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Date: Mon, 30 Sep 85 22:07:49 edt
From: Doug Alan <nessus>
Subject: Kate Bush rarities
Kate Bush Rarities
I was asked by Jeff Richardson to compile a list of songs that Kate Bush has recorded, but which do not appear on any of her albums. This is nearly everything I know about (I think):
Singles and singles B-sides:
"Passing Through Air" (1980) -- "Recorded in 1973 on a sunny afternoon at Dave's." On B-side of "Army Dreamers".
"The Empty Bullring" (1980) -- B-side to "Breathing".
"December Will Be Magic Again" (1980) -- An Xmas song. Only released as a single. One of Kate's best songs!
"Warm And Soothing" (1980) -- B-side to "December Will Be Magic Again".
"Ran Tan Waltz" (1980) -- B-side to "Babooshka". Much, much better than "Babooshka"!
"Lord of The Reedy River" (1981) -- Cover of the Donovan song. B-side to "Sat In Your Lap".
"Dreamtime" (1982) -- Instrumental version of "The Dreaming" -- quite different and wonderful. B-side to "The Dreaming" and "Suspended In Gaffa".
"Ne T'Enfuis Pas" (1982) -- B-side to "There Goes A Tenner". Also released as a single. Also on the Canadian "Kate Bush" EP, but not on the U.S. version.
"Un Baiser D'Enfant" (1983) -- B-side to "Ne T'Enfuis Pas". A French version of "The Infant Kiss". Also on the "Kate Bush" EP.
All of the songs up to this point can be found in a boxed set of 7 inch records called "Kate Bush: The Single File 1978-1983". It contains a pamphlet with pictures and lyrics and thirteen records: The Man With the Child In His Eyes, Kate Bush On Stage (EP), Hammer Horror, Ne T'Enfuis Pas, Army Dreamers, December Will Be Magic Again, There Goes A Tenner, Wow, The Dreaming, Babooshka, Breathing, Wuthering Heights, and Sat In Your Lap. It often sells for up to $50, but a record store near hear is selling them for $19.99:
"Under The Ivy" (1985) -- B-side to "Running Up That Hill". One of Kate's very best and emotionally powerful songs!
"Running Up That Hill (Extended Version)" (1985) -- 12 inch single.
"Running Up That Hill (Instrumental Version)" (1985) -- On B-side of "Running Up That Hill (Extended Version)".
Kate Appears On Others' Records
"You (The Game Part II) The two halves in Flight" -- A duet sung by Roy Harper and Kate Bush. Written by Roy Harper and David Gilmour. Appears on Roy Harper's album "The Unknown Soldier". An *amazing* song!
"No Self Control" -- On Peter Gabriel's third album. Kate sings background vocals.
"Games Without Frontiers" -- On Peter Gabriel's third album. Kate sings the line "Jeux sans frontieres", which everyone thinks is "She's so funky, yeah".
"FLOWERS" -- On an album called "FIGVRES" by Zaine Griff. Kate sings very prominent backing vocals. Very nice song!
Kate also sings background vocals on a song by Leslie Duncan, but I've never heard it or seen it anywhere.
Very Rare Stuff
"Another Day" -- Kate Bush and Peter Gabriel do a duet version of Roy Harper's wonderful song "Another Day". This is from Kate's BBC Xmas special that was broadcast in 1979 and is not on any record (except bootleg). "Another Day" has also recently been covered exceedingly well by This Mortal Coil on their album "It'll End In Tears".
"Egypt" -- A live version of the song from Kate Bush's 1979 concert tour. This is *totally* different from the version on "Never for Ever". Not on any record (except bootleg).
"Let It Be" -- Kate Bush, Peter Gabriel, and Steve Harley covered this during one of Kate's concerts in 1979. Not on any record (except bootleg).
A song in a movie called "The Magician of Lublin" -- Kate sings a song written by Maurice Jarre. It is used as background music in the film, and I haven't yet found it in any other form.
Exceedingling Rare
I'd commit mass murder to get any of these. PLEASE tell me if you ever find them anywhere!
"Maybe" -- In 1975 David Gilmour produced a demo tape for Kate Bush to give to EMI to help her get her recording contract. Two of the three songs on that demo tape were taken directly from that tape and put on "The Kick Inside": "Saxaphone Song" and "The Man With The Child In His Eyes". The third song "Maybe" was never released, but I have about 20 seconds of it from a radio show where Kate was interviewed and they played a little bit of it.
Kate did another Xmas song and gave it to radio stations to play, but she says that she is not aware of any station having ever played it, nor was it ever released.
It is said that before Kate met David Gilmour she made a very rough demo tape at home containing 50 songs! She sent this off to record companies, but it didn't produce any response. I guess it doesn't hurt to have David Gilmour on your side....
All of the tons of demos, experiments, alternate versions, unreleased songs, and other stuff that is lying around in Kate's closets that we will never get to hear!
-Doug
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 85 23:13:42 est
From: nessus (Doug Alan)
Subject: Re: kb rarities ...
> From: Jim Hofmann <hofmann@AMSAA.ARPA>
> A bootleg (?) from the Tawian Fan club.
There are two bootlegs from the Fan Club of Taiwan that I know of. One is called "Paris 1979" and has some stuff taken from a recording made on a cheap hand-held tape-recorder of one of her 1979 concerts. It has an early danceable (!) version of "Egypt" on it, that is so different from the version of "Never For Ever" that it's really wild to hear. I wish I could get a high fidelity copy of this version of the song.
The other Fan Club of Taiwan album is a double album. It is called "Kate Bush Live in Europe 79 & 80". One record is the soundtrack to the "Kate Bush Live at the Hammersmith Odeon" video tape, and the other album is the soundtrack to the hour long Christmas special called "Kate" that she did in 79. The Christmas special, besides having some somewhat different versions of some of her early album songs, as well as videos for Egypt, Ran Tan Waltz, The Wedding List, etc., also has a duet of Kate Bush and Peter Gabriel singing Roy Harper's "Another Day" and a short little song for three acappela voices (that people call "The Angel Gabriel") to introduce Peter Gabriel's "Here Comes The Flood".
Doug
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 86 16:01:31 est
From: nessus (Doug Alan)
Subject: Re: KB 12-inches
P.S. What really pisses me off is that there was a 12 inch for "Sat In Your Lap", but EMI decided at the last moment not to release it. Oooohhhhh! Kate has one. I wonder if she's into trading....
[some days later Doug posted:]
The next thing you know, I'll be off in England camping out on
Kate's front lawn until she gives me the 12" single for "Sat In
Your Lap" (which she has like the only copy of). Either that or until
she gives *me* the key, rather than this Houdini bloke.... And then there
will be no one left to run this mailing list.
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 86 18:07:57 EST
From: nessus (Doug Alan)
Subject: 12" DJ version of HoL
> From: (Scott Peterson)
> I have two copies of a 12" version of HoL that has a
different version of the song on each side. I fail to see the difference
between them, but one is about 20 seconds longer.
Ah, that's not a real thing. It's a DJ 12" made by EMI-America, that is not for general sale. On one side is the album version and on the other side is some slight remix EMI-America (not Kate) did. Basically it just has the verses rearranged. The real 12" single is only available as an import.
"And I'll be two steps on the water"
Doug
Date: Fri, 5 Dec 86 11:32:38 EST
From: nessus (Doug Alan)
Subject: The Grate Kate Diskography
Very Rare Stuff
"Another Day" --
Kate Bush and Peter Gabriel do a duet version of Roy Harper's
wonderful song "Another Day". This is from Kate's BBC Xmas
special that was broadcast in 1979 and is not on any record (except
bootleg). "Another Day" has also recently been covered
exceedingly well by This Mortal Coil on their album "It'll End In
Tears".
"Egypt" --
A live version of the song from Kate Bush's 1979 concert tour. This
is *totally* different from the version on "Never for Ever". Not
on any record (except bootleg).
"Let It Be" --
Kate Bush, Peter Gabriel, and Steve Harley covered this during one
of Kate's concerts in 1979. Available officially only on a rare Japaneese
flexidisk.
A song in a movie called "The Magician of Lublin" -- Kate sings a song written by Maurice Jarre. It is used as background music in the film, and I haven't yet found it in any other form.
Exceedingling Rare
I'd commit mass murder to get any of these. PLEASE tell me if you ever find them anywhere!
*Kate Bush, The Early Years* --
An East German pressing of some of Kate's early demo tapes. Kate
took legal action before the records got out of the warehouse.
"Maybe" --
In 1975 David Gilmour produced a demo tape for Kate Bush to give to
EMI to help her get her recording contract. Two of the three songs on that
demo tape were taken directly from that tape and put on "The Kick
Inside": "Saxaphone Song" and "The Man With The Child
In His Eyes". The third song "Maybe" was never released,
but I have about 20 seconds of it from a radio show where Kate was
interviewed and they played a little bit of it.
Kate did an Xmas jingle and gave it to radio stations to play, but she says that she is not aware of any station having ever played it.
It is said that before Kate met David Gilmour she made a very rough demo tape at home containing 50 songs! She sent this off to record companies, but it didn't produce any response. I guess it doesn't hurt to have David Gilmour on your side....
Date: Tue, 03 Feb 87 16:03 PST
From: IED0DXM@UCLAMVS
Subject: KT "discography"
For those who have requested a re-posting of the "discography", here is an updated edition. Note that this is not, nor was it ever, a real discography, but simply a list of every snippet of NON-LP KT music known (by IED) to exist. Recordings are listed in ROUGH chronological order.
A real discography, including all foreign pressings with their catalogue numbers, cannot really be done --how could one ever be really certain he had not overlooked one of the early EMI-India pressings, for example? If there's one thing IED has learned in his nine years (next month!) of Kate Bush fanaticism, it is that no-one can ever hope to have a "complete" collection.
"Maybe": one of Kate's earliest recordings with the KT Bush Band, made (as far as is known) in the summer of 1973, when Kate had just turned fifteen; she played about two verses and one chorus of the tape once during a British radio interview.
"Passing Through Air": One of the b-sides to the "Army Dreamers" single, it was recorded in 1973, at "Dave (Gilmour)'s house".
"The Man with the Child in His Eyes" (with spoken introduction): the only distinction of this original UK single mix is a strange spoken introduction in which Kate repeats the words "He's here!"
"On Stage": a four-track EP of live performances from the Tour of Life, featuring "Them Heavy People", "Don't Put Your Foot on the Heartbrake","L'Amour Looks Something Like You", and a long version of "James and the Cold Gun".
"Live at the Hammersmith Odeon": the official video release, including performances of twelve songs from the Tour of Life. There are a few interesting musical changes from the LP versions, notably the long instrumental introduction to "Kite" and the early version of "Violin" (with non-LP lyrics).
"Kate Bush -- On Tour": a German/Dutch TV documentary featuring footage of performances from the Tour of Life that were never officially released.
"Wow!": one of the bootleg albums (this one a 2-LP set) put out by an American outfit; it includes a transfer onto vinyl of the "Hammersmith" video's audio track, and another vinyl transfer of the audio portion of Kate's 1979 UK Christmas television special (both of which were re-released as part of the recent "Kate Bush Live in Europe '79-'80" bootleg 3-LP set.) (Also, nine tracks from "Hammersmith" turned up as a third bootleg LP called "A Bird in the Hand").
"Live in Paris '79": yet another bootleg by the same New Yorkers, this record features part of a live performance apparently done in Paris, and includes interesting versions of a few LP tracks. This record was also included as the third LP in the recent "Live in Europe '79-'80" bootleg set mentioned above. It is falsely identified as being a production of the non-existent "Fan Club of Taiwan".
"Kate Bush": the only title of a UK bootleg audio-cassette which includes virtually the entire two hours of performance from a 1979 concert in Bristol, England. This tape features chants, readings by John Carder Bush, and incidental music, all of which was heard in between Kate's songs during the concert. There are two strange ethnic chants; two synthesizer introductions to songs; two readings by John -- one known as "Two in One Coffin" (preceding "The Kick Inside"), the other a passage of unidentified prose (probably by John) about children, which precedes "In Search of Peter Pan"; and a long jam session by the KT Bush Band. Also included is the alternate (live) version of "Egypt", which sounds very different from the LP version.
"Kate": This was a forty-eight minute television special which aired in England at about the time of the Tour of Life. In addition to a couple of lip-synchs of LP tracks and one or two new vocal performances of old songs, several new and unique bits of music appeared on this show. They include a brief introduction, a performance of part of Satie's 1st "Gymnopedie" (as an introduction to "Symphony in Blue"), an early version of "December Will Be Magic Again", a choral introduction for Peter Gabriel (Kate's guest on the show), a brief bit of blues piano, and a duet with Peter of Roy Harper's song, "Another Day".
"Let It Be": a live performance of the Beatles song, sung by Steve Harley, Peter Gabriel and Kate Bush during a one-off London benefit concert. This appeared in a very limited edition red plastic flexi-disc, made officially by the Kate Bush Club for the Japanese branch of the Club; in addition to the song, it includes a brief spoken message from John Carder Bush and Kate.
"Kashka From Baghdad": a live solo performance done on a British television show called "Ask Aspel" in early 1979.
"The Wedding List": a live performance done during the Prince's Trust Concert a few years ago; Kate is backed by Phil Collins on drums, Pete Townsend and Midge Ure on guitars and BVs, and Mick Karn on bass.
"The Empty Bullring": the b-side to the "Breathing" single.
"Ran Tan Waltz": the b-side to the "Babooshka" single.
"Army Dreamers" (single mix): does not fade out, as it does on the LP.
"December Will Be Magic Again": the 1981 Christmas single; this song was written much earlier, and was performed on European television ca. 1979/80 in an arrangement featuring bongos.
"Warm and Soothing": the b-side of the "December Will Be Magic Again" single.
"Sing, Children, Sing": a benefit single by Leslie Duncan, with Kate (virtually indistinguishable) singing in the all-star back-up chorus.
"You (The Game, Part II)": a duet with Roy Harper of his song, on his album The Unknown Soldier.
"Flowers": a duet with Zaine Griff of his song, on his 1982 LP Figures. This song was a tribute to the dancer/mime/choreographer Lindsay Kemp, with whom Kate and Zaine had studied together for a time, ca. 1975/77.
"No Self-Control" and "Games Without Frontiers": two tracks from Peter Gabriel's third solo album, on which Kate sings backing vocals.
"The Magician (theme from "The Magician of Lublin"): a song from the film "The Magician of Lublin" starring Alan Arkin, it featured the music of Maurice Jarre (lyricist unidentified). No soundtrack was ever commercially released; consequently, the song is only known from the nearly unlistenable film print itself (dialogue blots out most of Kate's vocal).
"Sat In Your Lap" (rhythm track only): this track, isolated from the complete mix, was heard briefly on a British television documentary "Looking Good, Feeling Fit".
"Sat In Your Lap" (single mix): distinctly different in sound (especially rhythm and relative prominence of lead vocal track) from LP version.
"Lord of the Reedy River": the b-side of the "Sat In Your Lap" single; original song by Donovan, who sings (unidentifiably) BVs.
"Dreamtime": the b-side of the "The Dreaming" single; an instrumental version of "The Dreaming", very similar to the LP track only without the lead vocals and with a longer, different ending.
"Ne T'Enfuis Pas": originally the b-side of the "There Goes a Tenner" single, it was later remixed (the rhythm sound brightened and the lead vocal moved further up in the mix) for French and Canadian release as an a-side.
"Un Baiser d'Enfant": the b-side of the remixed "Ne T'Enfuis Pas", this is a French-language version of the Never For Ever track "The Infant Kiss".
"Brazil": a cover of the old popular song, not included in the Terry Gilliam film, but promised for inclusion in the forthcoming soundtrack LP.
Theme from "Castaway": a cover of the theme by Stanley Meyers from the Ken Russell film starring Oliver Reed. No LP release announced yet.
"Don't Give Up": a duet with Peter Gabriel of a song from his album So.
"The Seer": a track from Big Country's 1986 album of the same name, on which Kate sings backing vocals.
"The King is Dead": a track from Go West's forthcoming album, on which Kate sings backing vocals. (Due domestically in late February.)
"Running Up That Hill" (instrumental): identical to the LP version, except for the missing lead vocal track; featured on the twelve-inch single.
"Running Up That Hill" (re-mix): an extended re-mix of the original recording, featured on the twelve-inch single.
"Cloudbusting (The Organon Mix)": an extended re-mix of the original recording, featured on the twelve-inch single.
"Cloudbusting" (the film soundtrack): an extended version of the original recording, with an insert of new music.
"Hounds of Love (Alternative Hounds)": an extended re-mix of the original recording, with completely new vocals.
"The Big Sky (Special Single Mix)": seven-inch version of the original recording, with a slight remix and a different opening.
"The Big Sky (The Meteorological Mix)": an extended re-mix of the original recording, featured on the twelve-inch single.
"Under the Ivy": the b-side of the "Running Up That Hill" single.
"Burning Bridge": the first b-side of the "Cloudbusting" single.
"My Lagan Love": the second b-side of the "Cloudbusting" single; an a cappella recording of the traditional Irish folk-song.
"The Handsome Cabin Boy": the b-side of the "Hounds of Love" single; another traditional Irish folk-song.
"Not This Time": the b-side of the "The Big Sky" single.
"Experiment IV" (extended re-mix): featured on the twelve-inch single.
"Experiment IV" (film soundtrack): includes a remixed insert.
Date: Thu, 05 Feb 87 14:50 PST
From: IED0DXM@UCLAMVS
Subject: New picture Disc
Along with the new CD of The Dreaming (of which more below), a new Kate Bush picture-disc has started showing up in Los Angeles-area import record shops. It is a British import, priced from between $7.98 and $10.99.
This record is reasonably well made, as such things go. It is NOT, repeat NOT an official EMI release, but an attempt has been made to make it APPEAR to be official (a pseudo-HoL type-style and EMI-like catalogue number). The two photos are in colour, and are relatively rare shots, one from an old publicity session, the other a candid from (IED believes) the German TV appearance for "Running Up That Hill" and "The Big Sky". The record appears to have been made by the same people who put out a series of SEVEN-inch interview picture-discs of David Sylvian and Siouxsie Sioux about a year ago. Apparently they're getting more ambitious, branching out to twelve-inch.
This one contains an interview done with Kate in her studio by a British fan who apparently obtained Kate's participation by associating himself with an Australian group (probably the Aussie fanzine Dreamtime, who did send a couple of writers over to visit the UK KT community early last year). Kate obviously had no idea at the time of the interview that the tape would be used as yet another exploitive bootleg product.
However, this is definitely not the same as the infamous "D. Cross" interview which Homeground exposed as a fraud perpetrated by upstart rival Under the Ivy, as this is definitely a real one-on-one interview, whereas the other was just a fake using Kate's pre-recorded answers from the Canadian HoL interview record and a voice-over of the cue-sheet questions. Nevertheless, in the picture-disc's "real" interview, both the interviewer and Kate are extremely nervous and ill-at-ease, especially at the beginning and end of the interview; and the questions range from the utterly banal (things like "What's 'Running Up That Hill' about?") to the completely weird and meaningless ("The cloudbuster that Ken Hill made -- What's become of it?" Answer: It's in storage in a garage, of course!).
At the very end the interviewer throws in one of the questions Kate particularly dislikes getting, namely, "Do you follow current affairs and politics, Kate?". This time it was especially unwelcome because Kate thought the interview was finished, and then had to stay and answer this last question. She gives her usual non-committal answer, but this time it's also clearly intended to stop the conversation -- the closest IED has ever heard Kate get to open annoyance.
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 87 20:15 PST
From: IED0DXM%UCLAMVS.BITNET@wiscvm.wisc.edu
Subject: The Whole Story CD + Beatles
For trivia buffs and maniacal Beatles collectors, it may be of some interest to learn that an unknown number of packages for the EMI-America CDs of The Whole Story ACTUALLY contained the still unreleased CD of A Hard Day's Night. Two people discovered what they had after buying The Whole Story CD in the San Francisco area. One store was playing the Beatles CD when EMI authorities came in and made them give it back.
And get this: one of the people who inadvertantly obtained one of the Beatles CDs went back and EXCHANGED it for another KT CD. Even IED isn't THAT loyal a fan! (He'd have kept both.)
All of this was in the latest issue of Billboard under the headline: "And now, for the Whole Story on the Beatles/Bush switch..." And the article ended with speculation that sales of Kate's CD might go up in the next two weeks...
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 87 20:28:38 PST
From: ed191-bq%violet.Berkeley.EDU@berkeley.edu (Taylor)
Subject: Beatles-KB CD mixup
(from Hugh Maher)
Ok, so here's the big news: The latest copy of Billboard has a big story on page 24 about a recent Capitol mixup between "A Hard Days Night" CD of the Beatles, which they mistakenly packaged in cardboard boxes of "The Whole Story". (I don't know if the CD label itself said "Beatles" or "KB"). Anyway, one of these mispackaged discs were returned to Tower records in Berkeley (not by me, unfortunately) by a KB fan complaining that "the wrong music was on the CD" - god, I thought Kate fans were supposed to either like the Beatles or have an IQ over 5...
Capitol, of course, came and got the CD back from an equally thick store employee who willingly gave it up. Still, there are apparantly many more copies floating around, so keep your eyes out! Perhaps this will recuscitate the flagging chart life of "The Whole Story".
Hugh
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 87 21:37 PST
From: IED0DXM%UCLAMVS.BITNET@wiscvm.wisc.edu
Subject: another new picture disc
Less than one week after a British-made twelve-inch interview piKTure-disk (described in detail by your news-Hound at the time) hit L.A.-area record stores, a SECOND one has turned up! That's right, there are now TWO twelve-inch piKTure-disks, each with a different interview with Kate. The first, which can be quickly identified as the one with a blue-ish photo on one side, contained a legitimate interview which was only subsequently used in the present illegitimate way. That interview is remarkable for its awkwardness and tense atmosphere, although the questions are only par for stupidity (i.e., almost everyone asks the same dumb questions). By the way, for sticklers, IED would like to correct his earlier dating of one of the photos on the first picture-disk -- both photos date from 1978.
The newest one, on the other hand, has two reddish photos, the first a shot taken during Kate's stay in New York in November 1985 (she is wearing the veddy proper white blouse and floppy bow tie in which she made most of her public appearances there), the other a still from either German, French or Dutch lip-synch performances of "Babooshka", from back in 1980 (this was the solo performance in a red jumpsuit with a bass viol as the only prop). The same group of bootleggers made both picture disks, and both have prominent catalogue numbers and copyright signs all over, to lend them a false air of authenticity (bloody cheek).
This latest record, however, contains the now infamous "fake" interview so justly vilified in the 25th issue of Homeground. The questions are asked by a guy with a South London accent who begins by saying, "Welcome to the studio, Kate," as though she is there with him. In fact, however, it becomes immediately obvious that Kate is not there at all, but that the guy is editing in Kate's pre-recorded answers with his questions, which are read from a cue-sheet in a manner that approximates (rather well) a real conversation.
Unfortunately, the answers are only barely intelligible, coming as they appear to have done from a poor through-the-air transfer of Kate's answers from the official Canadian EMI interview disk for Hounds of Love. This "interview" was originally released in the U.K., L-Hs will remember, as a seven-inch record in four different colours of vinyl, and the product was slanderously misattributed to poor Dave Cross at Homeground, which is probably why they got so mad over there.
Altogether a shameful and sleazy undertaking, but unfortunately that won't stop a lot of fans from buying the thing (IED shame-facedly included).
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 87 02:10:05 EST
From: nessus (Doug Alan)
Subject: picture disc and copyright
Mr. Marvick,
The new Kate Bush interview picture disk is in no way related to the official Canadian EMI interview record. It's a totally different interview. I'm not really sure that it's appropriate to call these records "bootlegs" as they may be completely legal. For example, I own the rights to the interview I did with Kate and could presumably do anything I want to with it, including pressing records of it.
|>oug
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 87 14:26 PST
From: IED0DXM%UCLAMVS.BITNET@wiscvm.wisc.edu
Subject: picture discs
To answer the query re the piKTure disks: there are two twelve-inch bootleg picture-disk interview records in American import record shops now. (All of this is a summary of earlier notices from IED.) The first features two old colour photos of Kate, ca. 1978, wearing her old white dove earrings. The second (apparently the one you saw) has two more recent photos: one from the European lip-synch of "Babooshka" (Kate in red leotard, bass viol by the throat), the other a close-up from her 1985 visit to America. Both feature "unofficial" "interviews" with Kate.
The one with the old photos is a real interview, i.e. Kate is talking with the person interviewing her in a quiet room with good recording equipment. The interview is horrible: Kate is nearly as nervous as the incompetent interviewer (who sounds like a slightly over-the-edge fan himself), and it is a mystery how he managed to get Kate to agree to do the interview at all --IED has a theory that she was led to believe the guy had come all the way from Australia, and that the interview would be published in "Dreamtime", or some such falsehood. He mentions Australia in the course of the interview. Anyway, it's a curiosity, since Kate sounds extremely uncomfortable throughout.
The one with the recent photos is even more despicable. The interview is fake; that is, a tape of an earlier interview was played, with the interviewer (possibly the same twerpus who did the other one) interjecting imitations of the original interviewer's questions in between her pre-recorded answers. The sound is terrible, but the interview's content isn't without interest. This, incidentally, is not the same fake interview that appears on the infamous SEVEN-inch bootleg fake interview disk, which is the object of Homeground's venom; although the method of synching up pre-recorded answers from Kate with newly-posed questions from the "interviewer" is the same in both cases. The picture-disks themselves all come from the same group of U.K. bootleggers, and they are just two of a very long series of interview-disks, including similar product that features Peter Gabriel, Siouxsie Sioux, Marillion, Simple Minds, etc., etc.
-- Andrew
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 87 18:42 PDT
From: IED0DXM%UCLAMVS.BITNET@wiscvm.wisc.edu
Subject: re: the top 100 colleKTables
The April '87 issue of Record Collector (the U.K. equivalent to the U.S.'s Goldmine) has a cover article on Kate Bush collectable records. The article is followed by a list of the "Top 100 Rarities". Both are anonymously written. It will be of interest to all KT collectors, but don't take it too seriously (the way IED has), since it is also very inaccurate and plagued by silly ommissions.
The article and list now follow. For the sake of clarity, however, IED has broken his usual policy and inserted his annotations throughout the text, in an attempt to dispel the effects of the article's errors as soon as possible. IED's comments are between < > marks.
Kate Bush: Top 100 Rarities
A detailed list of Kate Bush's most valuable collector's items from all over the world
The list of rare records at the end of this feature are proof of Kate Bush's current stature in the world of record collecting. She is undoubtedly one of Britain's most popular singer-songwriters, and she has achieved consistent success entirely on her own terms -- refusing to be drawn into dubious publicity campaigns or lengthy promotional tours. Her recent duet with Peter Gabriel on "Don't Give Up" showed that her popularity extends beyond the general public into the musical community and -- as the early votes in this year's Readers Poll have demonstrated -- she pulls her support from right across the board, falling into no convenient faction or musical category.
Interest from collectors in all areas of her work has increased dramatically over the last eighteen months, and many discs which would not have been regarded as collector's items two years ago are now changing hands for high prices -- notably the original picture sleeve copies of her early U.K. singles. And like all the other most collectable artists, her overseas picture sleeves, promos and limited editions are very sought-after.
We have attempted to put together a definitive list of the 100 most collectable Kate Bush items. In practice, of course, such a list cannot be definitive; there is always going to be a South Korean picture sleeve of "Wow!" or a Peruvian promo of "The Kick Inside" to alter the odds. But we believe that our list represents all the collectable items that are in general circulation -- which is not to say that they are easy to find!
<This claim is just false. There are significant ommissions of KT collectables which are as much in "general circulation" -- both here and in the U.K. -- as many of the items on the bottom half of the list below; and many of these overlooked items fetch considerably higher prices than some of those which have been included.>
At the top of our list is one of two interview albums issued by EMI-America for North American DJs, to promote Kate's early LPs. <One of these was actually made to promote HoL, hardly an "early" LP.> "An Interview with Kate Bush" is much scarcer (and more interesting) than the album at No. 5 in our list, which exists in greater quantities -- presumably because it comes from the States, rather than Canada.
As you will see, white label test pressings, white label promos and ordinary promos take up a large part of this chart. But there are also some much more unusual items. At No. 3, for example, is a white label album called "The Early Years". This apparently consists of demo recordings that Kate made before her first release for EMI. A couple of years ago, an East German company is believed to have got hold of the tapes, and prepared them for release as an album. White label copies were pressed up, and apparently went into local circulation. The album was immediately withdrawn because of pressure from EMI's East German licensees, however, and is obviously now a very sought-after item. We know that collectors are willing to pay up to 60 Pounds for copies, but we have not been able to trace anyone who has actually seen a copy! If you own one, or can give us more details of the contents and the presentation of the album, then please let us know.
<There may be a very good reason for the fact that no-one has ever seen a copy -- namely, that the record may not really exist. Since no-one has yet reported having seen this album, even after two years, it seems less likely than ever that it was ever anything more than a fictitious rumour. However, if it existed, it would undoubtedly place not at No. 3 on the list of most collectable KT items (at a paltry 60 Pounds!), but at No. 1.
Since the only consistent criterion for the relative placement of the items on the list seems to be what some collector has said he would pay for them, this writer knows at least three fans who have said they would gladly pay $500 or more for a copy of "The Early Years"; and no wonder, since this legendary record is supposed to include demos of original Kate Bush material that has never been heard in any form -- a prize tantamount to the Kate Bush collector's Holy Grail. The Canadian interview disc and the U.K. white label test pressing of The Kick Inside are ordinary in the extreme, in comparison. So how much credence can the Record Collector's price ratings have?>
DISAPPOINTED
"The Single File", the boxed set of Bush singles issued three years ago, is now a collector's item in itself, although at its time of release it disappointed many fans, both with its production standards and its failure to reproduce the original picture sleeves. That has done collectors a favour, however, by making it much easier to tell original pic sleeves from the reissues.
On the rarest of the early picture sleeves, "Wuthering Heights", the EMI logo on the back cover is round, while on the reissue it is square. The same applies to originals and reissues of "Wow". With "The Man With the Child", the differences are more difficult to describe; but the reissue has much less clear printing than the original, and is obviously a copy of a sleeve, rather than the original artwork. There are similar differences on the other reissues; for example, the reissues of "Hammer Horror" have square-edged paper-folds on the back, rather than the round edges of the originals. In some cases, these minor differences can make a variation of several hundred percent in the values of originals and reissue copies.
"Kate Bush On Stage", the four-track set taken from her first and only concert tour, is responsible for several entries in our list of rarities. The set originally appeared in demo form as a double-pack in a gatefold sleeve, and the first few copies of the standard release followed the same format. Most copies exist as a single four-track EP in a gatefold sleeve, however, with original copies having a card cover rather than the paper used for the reissue.
<This last distinction between original and reissue is true for most of the Single File singles, and is a much easier way to tell one from the other than the tiny differences in corner-cuts, etc.>
RUMOURS
There are rumours of a British 12" issue of this EP, but no copies appear to be in circulation. Overseas, however, there are several very collectable variations. The most sought-after is the Japanese 7" edition, which comes with a pull-out insert. Close behind is the Canadian 7" edition, contained in a gatefold sleeve which was itself placed within a 12" outer sleeve. Both these versions sell for about 12 Pounds. Other collectable variations include the Dutch and French 12" singles, plus a double-pack version issued in Portugal. In some other countries, such as Germany, however, the four-track EP was eventually issued in a single sleeve, rather than a gatefold package.
Three flexidiscs are very popular with collectors. Eastern European countries have produced many collectable flexis, and in Kate Bush's case the rarest is a one-sided Russian disc of "Babooshka" in blue vinyl. A similar Belgian flexi given away with a magazine sells for about 12 Pounds, while the Japanese Fan Club issued a version of "Let It Be" unavailable elsewhere; this now sells for about 25 Pounds.
All the prices listed here are for records in Mint condition, and reflect recent selling prices of rare Kate Bush material in this country.
TOP 100 KATE BUSH RARITIES FROM AROUND THE WORLD
1. An Interview with Kate Bush (Canadian promo LP, EMI America SPRO 282).............................125 Pounds
2. The Kick Inside (UK white label test pressing in folder cover with photos & biography)...........80 Pounds
3. The Early Years (East German white label LP, withdrawn because of copyright problems)...........60 Pounds
4. The Kick Inside (Japanese test pressing with photos and insert).................................50 Pounds
5. Self Portrait (U.S. Promo LP EMI-America SSA
3024...............................40 Pounds
<Note: This interview LP includes cue-sheets.>
6. The Single File (EMI KBS 1; boxed set of singles, numbered limited
edition).................40 Pounds
<Note: If it's important that the set be from the numbered
limited edition, then what is the relative value of the later unnumbered
edition? This more common version of the boxed set isn't even included
among the top 100 on the list, even though it is still a highly
sought-after item -- indicating that the compiler of this list was not
aware of the existence of a later unnumbered edition.>
7. Wow! (Canadian promo single, yellow vinyl..........40 Pounds
8. Symphony in Blue (Canadian promo single, blue vinyl)........................................40 Pounds
9. The Kick Inside (German test pressing with photos and insert).................................35 Pounds
10. The Kick Inside (UK picture disc LP)..............30 Pounds
<Here again, the compiler apparently is unaware of the difference
in appearance and price of the original issue of The Kick Inside picture
disc LP and the later, more common reissue, which doesn't even crack this
"top 100", even though it is certainly more sought-after than
some of the items near the bottom of this list.>
11. Lionheart (UK white label test pressing)..........30 Pounds
12. The Kick Inside (U.S. promo copy with original cover design, EMI SW 11761)..............30 Pounds
<This is the "glamour" cover, still used by Harvest of Canada today for its edition of The Kick Inside; and not to be confused with the "country-western" cover, listed at number 48 on this list.>
13. The Man With the Child in his Eyes (U.K. white label test pressing)..................30 Pounds
14. Let It Be (Japanese Fan Club flexidisc in picture sleeve)...................................25 Pounds
15. Babooshka (Russian one-sided blue flexidisc)......25 Pounds
16. Hounds of Love (U.S. LP on grey marble vinyl).....22 Pounds
<This is actually just a greyer marbling of the same pink and
grey colours used for the cassette and the "Canadian" pink
marble LP listed at number 27. In fact, there are some U.S. copies with
marble as pink as the Canadian ones.>
17. Hounds of Love (U.S. white label promo LP with photos and biography, tied in ribbon).............22 Pounds
18. The Dreaming (Japanese promo LP)..................20 Pounds
19. Wuthering Heights (U.S. gold vinyl single).......20 Pounds
20. Wuthering Heights (original U.K. picture sleeve single)...................................20 Pounds
21. Kate Bush On Stage (original U.K. double-pack single in gatefold sleeve, NOT promo)............20 Pounds
22. Sat In Your Lap (Canadian mini-LP, clear vinyl)..20 Pounds
23. Sat In Your Lap (Canadian mini-LP, brown vinyl)..20 Pounds
<This mini-LP, also listed in different coloured vinyl at numbers
31 through 34, is not called Sat In Your Lap, but simply Kate Bush.>
24. Suspended in Gaffa (U.S. 12" promo single).......18 Pounds
25. Hounds of Love (U.S. marble cassette).............16 Pounds
26. Never For Ever (U.K. EMI promo flexi single)......15 Pounds
27. Hounds of Love (Canadian pink vinyl LP)...........15 Pounds
28. Hounds of Love (U.K. one-sided 12" white label test pressing)....................................15 Pounds
29. Experiment IV (white label test pressing with display box)......................................15 Pounds
30. The Big Sky (U.K. picture disc single)............15 Pounds
31. Sat In Your Lap (Canadian mini-LP, blue vinyl)....15 Pounds
32. Sat In Your Lap (Canadian mini-LP, white vinyl)...15 Pounds
33. Sat In Your Lap (Canadian mini-LP, red vinyl).....15 Pounds
34. Sat In Your Lap (Canadian mini-LP, green vinyl)...15 Pounds
35. The Dreaming (U.S. four-track 12" promo EP).......15 Pounds
<Again, this mini-LP is not called The Dreaming. Since in this
case, however, it has no title at all, The Dreaming suffices to identify
it.>
36. Running Up That Hill (Japanese promo single)......15 Pounds
37. Ne T'enfuis pas/Un Baiser d'enfant (Canadian single).................................12 Pounds
38. Running Up That Hill (Argentinian 12" promo, backed with Duran Duran's "A View to a Kill").....12 Pounds
39. Them Heavy People (U.S. mono/stereo 12" promo)....12 Pounds
<The U.S. mono/stereo 7" promo of The Man With the Child in
his Eyes is also quite collectable, certainly enough so to have been
included somewhere in this list.>
40. Moving (Polish 'postcard' single).................12 Pounds
41. Strange Phenomena (Polish 'postcard' single)......12 Pounds
42. Saxaphone Song (Polish 'postcard' single).........12 Pounds
43. Kate Bush On Stage (Canadian 7" gatefold sleeve in outer 12" sleeve)..............................12 Pounds
44. Kate Bush On Stage (Japanese picture sleeve single with pull-out biographical insert).........12 Pounds
45. The Man With the Child in his Eyes (Dutch single, with different picture sleeve to U.K.)....12 Pounds
46. The Man With the child in his Eyes (Belgian single, with different picture sleeve to U.K.)....12 Pounds
47. Wuthering Heights (Italian single with slightly different picture
sleeve to U.K.)........12 Pounds
<Why is this single, whose only remarkable feature is its Italian
translation of the song's title (Cime tempestose), placed so high up in
the list, when the German Wuthering Heights single, featuring an article
about Kate by one Dr. Biolek on the cover, is ommitted? Ditto for the
Spanish Sat In Your Lap, which features a translation of the title
(Sentada en tu Ragazo). These are certainly as sought-after as the Italian
Wuthering Heights.>
48. The Kick Inside (U.S. original LP with different cover to
U.K............................12 Pounds
<See note to no. 12.>
49. Kate Bush (Belgian flexidisc with magazine).......12 Pounds
<What is on this flexidisc? Judging from the description in the
article above, it contains Babooshka. What else, if anything?
50. Kate Bush On Stage (EMI promo double-pack single in gatefold sleeve)........................12 Pounds
51. Wuthering Heights (U.K. promo single).............12 Pounds
52. The Man With the Child in his Eyes (U.K. promo single)...............................12 Pounds
53. The Big Sky (U.K. 12" promo single)...............10 Pounds
54. The Kick Inside (Canadian LP with different cover to
U.K......................................10 Pounds
<The "glamour" cover, same as that for no. 12.>
55. Wuthering Heights (Dutch single with slightly different picture sleeve to U.K.)........10 Pounds
56. Wuthering Heights (Polish single with same picture sleeve as U.S.)......................10 Pounds
57. The Man With the Child in his Eyes (French single with picture sleeve).......................10 Pounds
58. The Man With the Child in his Eyes (Japanese single with different picture sleeve to U.K.).....10 Pounds
59. Wow! (French single with slightly different picture sleeve to U.K.).................10 Pounds
60. Wow! (Belgian single with slightly different picture sleeve to U.K.)...........................10 Pounds
61. Kate Bush On Stage (Portuguese double-pack single in gatefold sleeve)........................10 Pounds
62. Running Up That Hill (U.S. 12" promo single)......10 Pounds
<This is as good a place as any to comment on the frequent
absurdity of the high prices paid for "promo" items. In many
cases -- such as this one -- the promo LP is no different from the
officially marketed LP, except that the promo has been gold-stamped. In
fact, the promo is sometimes cheaper and less well made than the official
marketed item; usually its only claim to fame is its relative scarcity --
a poor justification for its high price.>
63. Hounds of Love (U.S. long/short 12" promo)........10 Pounds
<Note: this is not an edit of the LP track, nor is the long
version the same as the "Alternative Hounds" re-mix; rather, it
is the normal LP mix, backed with the same mix artificially extended
another 30 seconds by an American engineer.>
64. The Big Sky (U.S. 12" promo of single mix)........10 Pounds
65. Experiment IV (U.S. picture sleeve 7" promo)......10 Pounds
<Note: Both for no. 65 and no. 97, there is, as far as this
writer knows, no such U.S. 'promo' for the 7" single, as there is for
the 12". These are simply the first pressings of the 7", which
were issued in picture sleeves. Also, if U.S. 'promo' 7"s of
Experiment IV and Running Up That Hill (see no. 97) are listed, then why
aren't their 12" counterparts-- authentic 'promos' these -- listed?>
66. Moving (Japanese single with picture insert)......9 Pounds
67. The Man With the Child in his Eyes (U.K. original picture sleeve single)...................8 Pounds
68. Hammer Horror (U.K. promo single).................8 Pounds
69. Babooshka (U.K. promo single).....................8 Pounds
70. Wuthering Heights (Belgian single with slightly different picture sleeve to U.K.).................8 Pounds
71. Ne T'enfuis pas/Un Baiser d'enfant (French Odeon
single).....................................8 Pounds
<This single did not come out on the Odeon label, but on the
Pathe-Marconi label.>
72. Interview (green vinyl picture sleeve single).....7 Pounds
73. Interview (yellow vinyl picture sleeve single)....7 Pounds
74. Interview (red vinyl picture sleeve single).......7 Pounds
75. Interview (blue vinyl picture sleeve single)......7 Pounds
<These are bootleg seven-inch "fake-interview"
colour-vinyl disks. Why are they included in the list, when none of the
other bootleg items, several of which are now quite rare and highly
sought-after, are ommitted? For example, there are: a bootleg cassette of
Kate's Bristol concert, complete with incidental music and John Carder
Bush's readings; the U.S. bootleg albums Wow!, Live in Paris '79, A Bird
in the Hand, and Live in Europe '79-'80; and two new U.K. twelve-inch
picture-disk interview records. All of these are certainly as collectable
as the records listed in positions 80 through 100 on this list.>
76. Wow! (U.K. promo single)..........................7 Pounds
77. Breathing (U.K. promo single).....................7 Pounds
78. Army Dreamers (U.K. promo single).................7 Pounds
79. Running Up That Hill (Spanish promo single in picture
sleeve)................................7 Pounds
<Why is this promo alone described as being in a picture sleeve?
The notation implies that other promos do not have picture-sleeves, which
is not always the case.>
80. December Will Be Magic (U.K. promo single)........6 Pounds
81. There Goes a Tenner (U.K. promo single)...........6 Pounds
82. Running Up That Hill (U.K. promo single)..........6 Pounds
83. Experiment IV (one-sided white label single)......6 Pounds
84. Wuthering Heights (French picture sleeve single)..6 Pounds
<Why is this French single listed, and not the far more
sought-after French Breathing, which features a sleeve different to both
the U.K. and the German editions?>
85. Hammer Horror (Japanese picture sleeve single)....6 Pounds
<Why are the Japanese Hammer Horror, Moving (no. 66) and The Man
With the Child in his Eyes (no. 58) singles listed, but not the equally
collectable Japanese singles of Babooshka, Running Up That Hill, and
Symphony in Blue -- the last of which even features a different picture
sleeve to the U.K. edition?>
86. Hammer Horror (Italian picture sleeve single).....6 Pounds
<Again, why not the Spanish edition of Hammer Horror also? Record
Collector's compiler admits that this list is not truly "definitive"
because of the existence of so many foreign pressings. But he/she then
insists that the list "represents all the collectable items that are
in general circulation," which is simply false. The list is very
arbitrary, and includes numerous items which are no more sought after than
others which have been inexplicably ommitted; no. 86 being a case in
point.>
88. Kate Bush On Stage (Dutch 12" single in picture sleeve)...................................6 Pounds
89. Kate Bush On Stage (French 12" single in picture sleeve)...................................6 Pounds
90. Breathing (German picture sleeve single)..........6 Pounds
<See note to no. 84.>
91. Babooshka (Brazilian 33rpm picture sleeve single)...........................................6 Pounds
92. Night of the Swallow (Irish picture sleeve single)...........................................6 Pounds
93. Hammer Horror (Original U.K. picture sleeve single)...........................................5 Pounds
94. Kate Bush On Stage (U.K. 4-track single in gatefold sleeve)..................................5 Pounds
95. Running Up That Hill (U.K. gatefold sleeve single)...........................................5 Pounds
96. Don't Give Up (with Peter Gabriel; poster sleeve single)....................................5 Pounds
97. Running Up That Hill (U.S. 7" promo single).......5 Pounds
<See note to no. 65.>
98. Hounds of Love (Canadian picture sleeve single)...5 Pounds
99. Wuthering Heights (U.S. single with different picture sleeve to U.K.)...........................5 Pounds
100. Wuthering Heights (Swedish picture sleeve, issued with U.K. copy of single).................5 Pounds
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 87 14:53 PDT
From: IED0DXM%UCLAMVS.BITNET@wiscvm.wisc.edu
Subject: re Record Collector's Article:
IED agrees totally that 100 is excessive; actually so is 10. The only truly "rare" Kate Bush collectable record is the (possibly non-existent) East German Demos LP called The Early Years. All other KT "rarities" are actually just "hard-to-find", a decidedly inferior status. After all, according to the Record Collector's price list, a new collector could acquire every item on the entire Top 100 list by making a total investment of 1,588 Pounds (approx. $2,223.00): you can't even buy a Yugo for that! Furthermore, the collectors who can get you what you want (provided you have the money) are pretty well known and reasonably reliable. So none of these are Christie's or Sotheby's material. The excessive length of the list was the root of almost all of Record Collector's mistakes: the compiler had so many spaces to fill up that some arbitrary insertions and omissions were inevitable.
On the other hand, there are a lot more than 100 "collectable" records that can go for 5 Pounds or so, so the only way to make an effective list is either to include every item, no matter how long the list, or to make a cut-off at something like 20 Pounds. Even so, such a list is next to meaningless, because there will always be some new Kate fan with a poor knowledge of the market, some extra cash and a fervor to buy, buy, buy. So what items are probably the hardest to find? Again, hard to say, since even those items were easy for SOMEONE to find. In other words, these lists are not very helpful. So instead, IED will list ten items which he feels are probably the most INHERENTLY worthwhile, even at inflated prices. That's about the best he can do. Notice that no ordinary promotional copies are included, and only one white-label makes the list. In general, the premium on such items is artificial, and annoying to this fan.
Top 10 ColleKTable Records
1. The Early Years (East German Demos LP).
If it exists at all, then its value is immeasurable. An album of
Kate's earliest performances -- pre-falsetto-era -- from the period of
(and possibly including) "Passing Through Air" and "Maybe".
Like going back in time to witness the birth of God.
2. Let It Be (ca. 1981; Kate Bush Club of Japan flexidisc).
With brief spoken messages from Kate and John Carder Bush. This is
quite rare; but more importantly, it is extremely interesting. It gives a
very strong and atmospheric impression of the ethos of the Bush family,
plus a recording of Kate's most ingenuous and (arguably) least artistic
performance. For Kate fans it has to be a remarkable icon.
3. The Bristol concert bootleg cassette (with a photo of silent film
star Louise Brooks on the cover.)
IED has never heard of anyone else having a copy of this tape, but
it is almost certainly not rare. In IED's opinion, this unedited two-hour
bootleg of one of Kate's Tour of Life shows is invaluable. It includes not
only nearly all of the songs from the concert -- including the alternate
early version of Egypt -- but most of the incidental music, chants and
readings, as well. By contrast, all of the U.S.-made bootleg LPs feature
radically edited excerpts from the live performances.
4. An Interview with Kate Bush (Canadian promo LP, EMI America SPRO
282).
This is the more recent of the two official interview LPs, and it
features a few interesting moments. It's also supposed to be very rare.
5. Kate Bush Self-Portrait (U.S. promo LP, EMI America SSA 3024).
A very early interview (done in the summer of 1978). Kate is young
and filled with enthusiasm. It makes a marked contrast from Number 4.
6. The Kick Inside (UK white-label test pressing in folder cover with
photos & biography).
One of the few white-labels for which the high price may be
justified. It is very rare, is specially packaged, and supposedly has
terrific sound. Except that the CD has even better sound; and anyway, if
the LP gets played, its sound deteriorates and its value goes way down. So
what's the point?
7. The Kick Inside Picture-Disk (original edition).
Not really any higher quality than the later re-pressing, but its
authenticity may still be of value to some collectors.
8. The Single File (original numbered edition).
As with number 7, the original run of this item is no better than
the later unnumbered edition, but its verifiable rarity gives it some
value. The actual records are cheap re-prints, so collectors of singles
would do better to concentrate on finding mint copies of the original U.K.
picture-sleeve singles.
9. A tie between all of Kate's original U.K. picture-sleeve singles:
Wuthering Heights, The Man With the Child in his Eyes, Hammer
Horror, Wow and the Kate Bush On Stage double-pack. In perfect condition
these are worth alot of money, and are genuinely valuable artifacts.
10. A tie between A Symphony in Blue (Canadian blue vinyl), Wow (Canadian yellow vinyl), Wuthering Heights (U.S. gold vinyl), Babooshka (Russian blue vinyl flexi), and a complete set of the Canadian mini-album (in Green, White, brown, red, blue and clear vinyl).
These were all genuinely limited editions, unlike the U.S. marbleized Hounds of Love LPs and cassettes, of which a great number were pressed. The fact that the marbleized items bring a very high price nowadays doesn't mean they're worth it.
From: dap@cgl.ucsf.edu (David Pearlman%Kollamn)
Date: 18 Apr 87 03:41:09 GMT
Subject: Acetates
One class of collectables conspicuously absent from the "top 100" rareties list is acetates. These are special disks cut one at a time and in *extremely* small quantities (often one or two of a particular single/album), usually to find out what a record will sound like before going through the great expense+effort of making the actual pressing masters, etc. for producing vinyl records.
While I don't know how many acetates of each Kate Bush record have been made, or for which *any* are in general circulation (often only the artist and the producer will get copies; sometimes only the artist; sometimes the record label requests a few), I do know that at least one acetate copy of "The Kick Inside" is in a collector's hands. I saw it at a used record store in LA a few years ago for $35.00.
Another nice thing about acetates (from the collector's point of view) is that they sometimes contain unreleased material. I have acetates of a few LP's that differ from their released counterparts, and a lot of acetate singles which were never released (often referred to as acetate "demos"). Sorry, no Kate stuff (as well as I remember).
Date: Sat, 24 Oct 87 18:20 PDT
From: IED0DXM%UCLAMVS.BITNET@wiscvm.wisc.edu
Subject: new bootlegs
IED has a tiny bit more concrete information to give you all as a guideline for this topic, through the courtesy of the new issue (#28) of Homeground, "The International Kate Bush Fanzine".
First, they confirm the existence of several new bootlegs, and although they try to make it sound like none of them is worth owning, in fact one of the latest, a two-LP set called Under the Ivy Bush, contains some absolutely exclusive stuff, namely demo versions of "Babooshka" and a couple of other tracks from that era! Interesting, eh? Plus it may contain the live "Under the Ivy".too.
Also, they confirm the existence of a new 7" bootleg single containing the Policeman's Third Ball "RUTH" backed with "Let It Be" from the same concerts. Worth having.
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 88 23:39 PDT
From: IED0DXM%UCLAMVS.BITNET@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
Subject: New Kate bootleg -- a CD!
IED just stumbled across the first-ever KATE BUSH PICTURE-CD. Actually, though, it's still a pretty shoddy piece of merchandise, despite its uniqueness (so far). It's an interview-disk, a new entry in the continuing series of cult-rocker interview CDs that have been showing up in import CD shops during the past couple of months. (Earlier entries include Sisters of Mercy, Cocteau Twins and Peter Gabriel, plus perhaps five or six others.) The covers of all of these CDs are yellow, with a photograph of the artist/artists on the front of the "booklet". No label name is given, and it's possible that the company is the same that put out the long series of picture-disk vinyl interview LPs under the "BAKTABAK" label, but there's no way of really knowing.
[|>oug is not sure that "bootleg" is the most appropriate term to use here, as interview albums are probably perfectly legal to market. -- |>oug ]
The Kate Bush CD features a candid photo of Kate from her appearance at the laser-art press audition of the Hounds of Love LP in the fall of 1985. Another photo by the same photographer was used by Verkerke poster company as the source for a poster which appeared in Europe shortly afterward. Kate is seen wearing a plain off-white silk blouse and the dragon earrings which appear on the cover of the Hounds of Love twelve-inch (and elsewhere). The same photograph is reproduced on (and somewhat rattily inserted in) the label-side surface of the compact disc itself.
As for the audio content, it is comprised of two separate interviews, the first of about twenty-three minutes' length, the other of about nine minutes. IED cannot say for sure, because he has never heard the "official" HoL promotional interview LP, but it seems likely to him that one or the other (or possibly both) of the interviews on this CD come from that interview. The longer of the two is an undoctored, legitimate conversation between Kate and an unidentified Englishman who asks all the usual and basic questions, receiving all the usual and basic replies, although Kate seems to take more than her usual care in choosing her words.
Oh, one more thing, this by way of a warning to the buyer: on the back of the CD's jewel-box notes there is a "guarantee" that none of the interview CDs in this yellow series is less than 40 minutes in length. In fact, however, the Kate Bush CD is only a little more than 32 minutes long. So much for truth in advertising.
From: mcvax!inf.rl.ac.uk!nbc@uunet.UU.NET
Date: Thu, 8 Dec 88 11:41:16 gmt
Subject: Kate Bush Live in Japan
There is also mention of another bootleg that looks very interesting, called 'Kate Bush Live in Japan'. A 7" containing a live performance of 'Moving' at the 1978 Tokyo Song Festival and her cover versions of two Beatles songs 'She's leaving Home' and 'The Long and Winding Road' performed on TV in Japan at the same time. "A treasure".
Neil.
From: sco!scol!craig@uunet.UU.NET
Subject: "KATE BUSH The Early Years" - Bootleg or no?
Date: 08:38:24 PM Wed 11 Jan 1989 GMT
I picked up a copy of the January issue of the UK magazine "Record Collector" today, in which "Richard Jackson reviews the rarest releases from the first three years of Bush's career, including promos, limited editions and obscure overseas picture sleeves and LPs".
The majority of it will be no surprise to the dedicated KollecTor (although I wonder if the prices have really gone up that much since I was last in the market some 3-4 months ago), but I was struck by the following:
"There has been much confusion in the past over two German Kate Bush albums, one from each half of the divided country. One is called ``The Early Years'', the other ``Amiga''. Contrary to what we've been told in the past, they contain entirely different material.
[description of ``Amiga'' collection (no rare material) omitted]
"The West German title is ``The Early Years'' - the most mysterious Bush album of all. Some say this is an official release, quickly withdrawn under pressure from the Bush/EMI camp; others claim it is a bootleg. Both may be true. [I think he means either may be true!] In either case, the record contains some of Kate's earliest demo recordings, almost all of which are songs unavailable elsewhere. I can confirm that the record does exist, as I had a copy in my hands for about five seconds last year - long enough to say that it looked like an official release, but not to memorise the song titles! If it was an 'official' release, then expect it to change hands for very large sums indeed." [in context, this would appear to mean several hundred pounds]
So, eKsperTs (IED, this means you!) (|>oug, where are you?) what's the story here? I personally find it very hard to believe that such a treasure trove could be hidden in obscurity for so long, especially if it was an official West German release, but then again, "Record Collector" is not given to perpetrating hoaxes.
Of course, if anyone actually *has* this, it goes without saying that I'd give my right [insert your chosen body-part here] for a tape of it.
- Craig.
Date: Thu, 12 Jan 89 11:26 PST
From: IED0DXM%OAC.UCLA.EDU@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
Subject: D E M O S (Craig's posting re Record Collector )
Many thanks to Craig for his posting on the new RC article. IED entertains little hope that his contributions to the research behind Jackson's article was acknowledged. (IED sent in a long--as if you couldn't have guessed it would be long!--letter of review of RC 's last big Kate collectibles article, and it was never published. One of the points covered in his letter was the distinction between the two German LPs.)
>The majority of it will be no surprise to the dedicated KollecTor (although I wonder if the prices have really gone up that much since I was last in the market some 3-4 months ago), but...
Not knowing the prices cited in the magazine, IED can't say, but he has seen the prices on some Kate items skyrocket beyond all reasonable belief during the past year or so. It all depends on who you're buying from, of course, but how about $750.00 for the pair of framed, autographed photos that went for a total of $60 when originally offered by Kate and EMI at the time of HoL 's initial release? Or $125.00 for the Canadian On Stage --in less than mint condition? Both these items were sold, too, at a Hollywood store.
>recordings, almost all of which are songs unavailable elsewhere. I can confirm that the record does exist, as I had a copy in my hands for about five seconds last year - long enough to say that it looked like an official release, but not to memorise the song titles!
The record does indeed exist. Peter FitzGerald-Morris confirmed this fact at the beginning of 1988 in a news flash in HG. He also listed the individual song titles (there are ten) in the article. Among them (from IED's poor memory) were: Davy (an early version of Maybe ); Cussi Cussi ; Atlantis ; and Sunsi.
-- Andrew Marvick
Date: Sat, 18 Mar 89 17:44 PST
From: IED0DXM%OAC.UCLA.EDU@mitvma.mit.edu
Subject: New KT "bootleg" interview CD
Yet another KT interview CD has come on the market. Unlike most of the others released to date, this new CD is an excellent product. It's called (wrongly or euphemistically) Kate Bush: The Abbey Road Interview, and it is apparently being made in an authentically "limited" edition--at any rate, each copy includes a serial number on the front cover.
The cover--which is made of card-paper in the style of a five-inch-size album cover--is beautifully designed, with pretty silver block lettering on a dark blue background. On the front cover it simply says "K A T E B U S H" above a reproduction of one of Guido Herera's HoL -era publicity close-ups, in full and good-quality colour. The back has the title, the serial number (printed in black on a white band) and a marvelously printed colour shot of Kate, dating from a series of photos for a ca.-1979/80 UK music-weekly interview (quite unrelated to the contents of the CD itself, but a wonderful shot nevertheless), showing her seated on a bank of black leather couches in a lobby, wearing a bright red dress with a butterfly brooch. Lovely.
The interview itself is not from "Abbey Road". God knows why such a title was chosen. At any rate, it probably wouldn't have been a good idea to identify the interview correctly, because the actual company which owns the rights to it--UK's Capital Radio--almost certainly had nothing to do with this product. Anyway, the interview was really undertaken by Tony Myatt, a longtime friend of Kate's dating from November of 1977 when Tony and Capital decided that Wuthering Heights was such a great record, they would play it on their station even though its release had been postponed for four months. Their early promotion had a "teaser" effect on the British public, and helped make Wuthering Heights the success it was. This particular interview was, as far as IED knows, recorded by Tony at Capital's own studios, but at the Romford Convention in November 1985 it was announced that the interview had been conducted expressly for the convention itself.
Anyway, the interview is one of Kate's very best, and even though Tony's questions are frequently very, very silly, his evident affection and respect for Kate have the effect of provoking some very interesting and emotional answers. It's also a long interview--the second longest that IED has ever heard/read. It lasts forty-seven minutes. Finally, the sound is superb--almost like a digital recording. Absolutely no hiss, though there is a very low-level intermittent buzz from the in-studio equipment. All in all, this CD gets an A from IED, and is recommended to anyone wishing to hear Kate talking over a broad range of subjects with the thoughtfulness and maturity that has distinguished her public conversation since 1985. IED paid a rather steep $20.00 for his copy, but it's almost worth that much.
-- Andrew Marvick
Date: Tue, 23 May 89 11:42 PDT
From: IED0DXM%OAC.UCLA.EDU@mitvma.mit.edu
Subject: Concert boots
[Bootlegs:]
The sound is abysmal, you're right, Dan, but there are no bootlegs of the 1979 concerts that have good sound. Unless you want to count the new CD of the Hammersmith Odeon film's soundtrack (from the laser-disk's digital re-master). The best-sounding one that includes all the songs and incidental bits and pieces is probably the Manchester concert (a two-LP set, though only a little less complete than the DT 3-LP set). But they're all miserable. Kate never gave any live Tour of Life performances on radio or on TV, although a few months later (Dec. '79) she performed a few songs live in-studio on her Xmas special.
Also, there are a few clips from other live Tour of Life shows on three different TV programmes: the Tour episode of Nationwide (UK TV); a German programme called Kate Bush in Concert (which has some songs from the Hamburg and Mannheim concerts); and a Swedish show called Rockdrotting (with a few songs from the Stockholm concerts). All are in mono TV sound, however. It seems pretty clear at this point that no fan was well enough equipped soundwise to get a decent in-audience copy of any of Kate's Tour of Life concerts. And so far no soundboard mixes or outtakes from the unedited Hammersmith film have surfaced in the bootleg market. (An Italian fan offered a tape of the Amsterdam concert once, but IED never heard it, and anyway it's doubtful that it's any better than the others.)
-- Andrew Marvick
Date: Mon, 05 Jun 89 01:21 PDT
From: IED0DXM%OAC.UCLA.EDU@mitvma.mit.edu
Subject: "Abbey Road" KT interview
P.S.: To end on an anti-clamactic note, the so-called "Abbey Road" KT interview CD that IED described a month or so ago has now re-surfaced on vinyl, as a 12" picture-disk. One side features a 1985 publicity shot (often seen) of Kate in pink; the other is a nice twist on the TKI official picture-disk. It's a photo of Kate in the green body-suit from that disk, getting out of a chromium cylinder, but the shot is not exactly the same as the one from the official disk. The program is exactly the same Tony Myatt interview (47 minutes long) as heard at the Romford convention and on the CD.
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